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		<title>Comment on Discerning Media by Boaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noelle MacAfee, 

I re-narrate between your quotes as  the read and the writing.
I title your writing as Neo-logo-lexi-journalism
It won’t happen unless we discern and aim toward using these new media to create a better environment for democratic politics.
Media can be discerned as readings being written upon.
Good journalism never just reported what happened.  It reported on how what happened matters to us. This kind of journalism can happen in a newspaper as well as on a blog

You have connected your dialogue to Chomsky’s: ‘media manufactures consent.’

Second, we need to get over this distinction between professional journalism and citizen journalism.

Would auto-democratic-journalism be far-fetched as Utopianism?

In today’s meeting, Dan Gillmor made the good point that the old model of journalism was about manufacturing a product (a news article) and distributing it to the passive masses. The old model, which sent news out to people,  trained people to be passive consumers.

It is praxis as awareness of reading and writing as being questions for not being there for mere news.

With him, we have to start treating people as actors rather than as consumers and audiences.  
Good journalism calls for political transformation.  Not only that, sustainable journalism calls for this.

Post-modernizing coverage is the need of the hour. Trucks write “Green” and spill granite dust as they bubble over. I choke and cough and read the main headlines as well as their coverage ads. as “Green Poabs” in the local newspaper. 

Folks will pay for news when it matters to them — and when the political culture considers that what they think does indeed matter.
I wish one day, people will also make obituaries and personal narratives of news as main headlines. Till then, the 4th estate enjoys the power and pelf of being mono-logic, graphic-autocratic. 

I have another request to make; I have done a thesis on Deconstructing the Portrayal of feminity within a novel. I have used your book—Julia Kristeva Reader  (Routledge).   I am impressed. Would you review my thesis and send comment. I can send it to you.
My email is aieye@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noelle MacAfee, </p>
<p>I re-narrate between your quotes as  the read and the writing.<br />
I title your writing as Neo-logo-lexi-journalism<br />
It won’t happen unless we discern and aim toward using these new media to create a better environment for democratic politics.<br />
Media can be discerned as readings being written upon.<br />
Good journalism never just reported what happened.  It reported on how what happened matters to us. This kind of journalism can happen in a newspaper as well as on a blog</p>
<p>You have connected your dialogue to Chomsky’s: ‘media manufactures consent.’</p>
<p>Second, we need to get over this distinction between professional journalism and citizen journalism.</p>
<p>Would auto-democratic-journalism be far-fetched as Utopianism?</p>
<p>In today’s meeting, Dan Gillmor made the good point that the old model of journalism was about manufacturing a product (a news article) and distributing it to the passive masses. The old model, which sent news out to people,  trained people to be passive consumers.</p>
<p>It is praxis as awareness of reading and writing as being questions for not being there for mere news.</p>
<p>With him, we have to start treating people as actors rather than as consumers and audiences.<br />
Good journalism calls for political transformation.  Not only that, sustainable journalism calls for this.</p>
<p>Post-modernizing coverage is the need of the hour. Trucks write “Green” and spill granite dust as they bubble over. I choke and cough and read the main headlines as well as their coverage ads. as “Green Poabs” in the local newspaper. </p>
<p>Folks will pay for news when it matters to them — and when the political culture considers that what they think does indeed matter.<br />
I wish one day, people will also make obituaries and personal narratives of news as main headlines. Till then, the 4th estate enjoys the power and pelf of being mono-logic, graphic-autocratic. </p>
<p>I have another request to make; I have done a thesis on Deconstructing the Portrayal of feminity within a novel. I have used your book—Julia Kristeva Reader  (Routledge).   I am impressed. Would you review my thesis and send comment. I can send it to you.<br />
My email is <a href="mailto:aieye@hotmail.com">aieye@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Blacks v. Women by Croatian</title>
		<link>http://gonepublic.wordpress.com/2008/01/14/blacks-v-women/#comment-1902</link>
		<dc:creator>Croatian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cro-tourism.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Croatia  vacation&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cro-tourism.com" rel="nofollow">Croatia  vacation</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Connecting New Media and the Political Unconscious by Christopher P. Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher P. Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Noëlle, for participating on the Digital Dialogue and for all the work you do with new media.  I am really excited about the opportunities social media offer educators in our attempts to cultivate genuine communities of learning. 

In your book, &lt;em&gt;Democracy and the Political Unconscious&lt;/em&gt;, you mention the idea that the web is &quot;all about the links, man,&quot; to which I would add that the connections those links establish are really what make the social web pedagogically transformative.  I tried to articulate a bit of what I mean in concrete terms in this presentation I just gave at Utah Valley University about using technology to engage students:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/cpl2/blogs/cplportfolio/2009/11/engaged-learning-with-technolo.html

Thanks for coming on to the Digital Dialogue.  I look forward to our continuing conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Noëlle, for participating on the Digital Dialogue and for all the work you do with new media.  I am really excited about the opportunities social media offer educators in our attempts to cultivate genuine communities of learning. </p>
<p>In your book, <em>Democracy and the Political Unconscious</em>, you mention the idea that the web is &#8220;all about the links, man,&#8221; to which I would add that the connections those links establish are really what make the social web pedagogically transformative.  I tried to articulate a bit of what I mean in concrete terms in this presentation I just gave at Utah Valley University about using technology to engage students:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.personal.psu.edu/cpl2/blogs/cplportfolio/2009/11/engaged-learning-with-technolo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.personal.psu.edu/cpl2/blogs/cplportfolio/2009/11/engaged-learning-with-technolo.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks for coming on to the Digital Dialogue.  I look forward to our continuing conversation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ranking Philosophy Programs by Noelle McAfee</title>
		<link>http://gonepublic.wordpress.com/2007/03/18/ranking-philosophy-programs/#comment-1894</link>
		<dc:creator>Noelle McAfee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post of mine, which is over 2 1/2 years old, still gets a lot of traffic.  To those of you visiting this post, I&#039;d like to ask, what are your interests and concerns?  Is this discussion at all helpful?   What kind of ranking system (or other system) would you like to see?  And do you think this matter is of importance to just potential graduate students or also to faculty and administrators?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post of mine, which is over 2 1/2 years old, still gets a lot of traffic.  To those of you visiting this post, I&#8217;d like to ask, what are your interests and concerns?  Is this discussion at all helpful?   What kind of ranking system (or other system) would you like to see?  And do you think this matter is of importance to just potential graduate students or also to faculty and administrators?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Connecting New Media and the Political Unconscious by Brad Rourke</title>
		<link>http://gonepublic.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/connecting-new-media-and-the-political-unconscious/#comment-1893</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noelle, it was an honor to talk to you! Your work is, as always, exemplary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noelle, it was an honor to talk to you! Your work is, as always, exemplary.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Discerning Media by Connecting New Media and the Political Unconscious &#171; gonepublic: philosophy, politics, &#38; public life</title>
		<link>http://gonepublic.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/discerning-media/#comment-1892</link>
		<dc:creator>Connecting New Media and the Political Unconscious &#171; gonepublic: philosophy, politics, &#38; public life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Discerning&#160;Media  [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Discerning Media by Brad Rourke</title>
		<link>http://gonepublic.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/discerning-media/#comment-1891</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noelle, I still say this is a great piece. The podcast it inspired is now posted, here:

http://blog.bradrourke.com/2009/11/17/new-media-and-civic-life-interview-with-noelle-mcafee/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noelle, I still say this is a great piece. The podcast it inspired is now posted, here:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.bradrourke.com/2009/11/17/new-media-and-civic-life-interview-with-noelle-mcafee/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.bradrourke.com/2009/11/17/new-media-and-civic-life-interview-with-noelle-mcafee/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Discerning Media by Colin Koopman</title>
		<link>http://gonepublic.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/discerning-media/#comment-1888</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Koopman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh &amp; fyi: a conference at Yale on your very topics later this week: http://www.law.yale.edu/intellectuallife/10123.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh &amp; fyi: a conference at Yale on your very topics later this week: <a href="http://www.law.yale.edu/intellectuallife/10123.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.law.yale.edu/intellectuallife/10123.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Discerning Media by Colin Koopman</title>
		<link>http://gonepublic.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/discerning-media/#comment-1887</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Koopman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!  Always insightful.   I agree with the conclusion and much of the argument you use to advance toward it.  I wonder if one implication isn&#039;t that some of our old categories (re: both media and politics) aren&#039;t growing obsolete.  Is there still room for a distinctive category of &#039;journalism&#039;?  I.e., can &#039;journalism&#039; as distinct from say &#039;literature&#039; and &#039;culture criticism&#039; and &#039;editorial page argument&#039; survive?  Or do these things increasingly blend together on the view you are describing?  I don&#039;t really have an answer to these questions, not even much of a hunch really, but it seems that such a scenario is plausible, and so maybe deserving of consideration.

My question here, to my mind, is similar to concerns you have expressed in the past about the idea of &#039;the media&#039; (which as a mass noun maybe makes sense in describing the early 20th century but makes little sense as a singular noun in describing the social landscape of the early 21st century where some collective noun would be more appropriate) or concerns I have expressed about the idea of &#039;the public&#039; (another singular noun that applies to the early 20th century but not so sure that it makes sense of anything today).

&quot;Perhaps in another post I’ll document the places and cases in which media that actually connects with communities’ democratic capacities becomes economically sustainable.&quot;  Please do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!  Always insightful.   I agree with the conclusion and much of the argument you use to advance toward it.  I wonder if one implication isn&#8217;t that some of our old categories (re: both media and politics) aren&#8217;t growing obsolete.  Is there still room for a distinctive category of &#8216;journalism&#8217;?  I.e., can &#8216;journalism&#8217; as distinct from say &#8216;literature&#8217; and &#8216;culture criticism&#8217; and &#8216;editorial page argument&#8217; survive?  Or do these things increasingly blend together on the view you are describing?  I don&#8217;t really have an answer to these questions, not even much of a hunch really, but it seems that such a scenario is plausible, and so maybe deserving of consideration.</p>
<p>My question here, to my mind, is similar to concerns you have expressed in the past about the idea of &#8216;the media&#8217; (which as a mass noun maybe makes sense in describing the early 20th century but makes little sense as a singular noun in describing the social landscape of the early 21st century where some collective noun would be more appropriate) or concerns I have expressed about the idea of &#8216;the public&#8217; (another singular noun that applies to the early 20th century but not so sure that it makes sense of anything today).</p>
<p>&#8220;Perhaps in another post I’ll document the places and cases in which media that actually connects with communities’ democratic capacities becomes economically sustainable.&#8221;  Please do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blogging and the End of Journalism by Discerning Media &#171; gonepublic: philosophy, politics, &#38; public life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Discerning Media &#171; gonepublic: philosophy, politics, &#38; public life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the debate about old school journalism versus new media.  I&#8217;ve blogged about this debate before. But I keep coming back to these meetings because I think that something incredibly promising is [...]</description>
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